Our First Anniversary. What have we learnt?

In this special episode, we celebrate our one-year anniversary and our 50th episode. We took the opportunity to ask each other a series of questions.

ChaptGPT – https://chat.openai.com/
Discord – https://discord.com/
VR Chat – https://hello.vrchat.com/

What is Wisher Vodka? – https://www.womenofthemetaverse.co.uk/the-wisher-vodka-project/
What is a DAO? – https://www.womenofthemetaverse.co.uk/what-is-a-dao/
Building a brand in a Web 3 World – https://www.womenofthemetaverse.co.uk/building-a-brand-in-a-web-3-world/
How will Web3 change web design? – https://www.womenofthemetaverse.co.uk/how-will-web-3-0-change-web-design/
What is VerseLuxe? – https://www.womenofthemetaverse.co.uk/what-is-verseluxe/

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Show Transcript

[00:00:00] Cheryl: Welcome to Women of the Metaverse. I am Cheryl Laidlaw

[00:00:08] Angela: I am Angela Harkness. We have been and are still on a journey to discover the Metaverse with 3.0 NFTs and anything that we are required to know to join this world 

[00:00:20] Cheryl: from. From this podcast, we will help you to unlock how the metaverse is going to impact your brand.

[00:00:27] Cheryl: Your business and even your personal life. 

[00:00:31] Angela: Join us as we take the mystery out of this new digital universe.

[00:00:38] Cheryl: Welcome to Women of the Metaverse in this very special episode for us because not only is it our 50th episode, but also it is our one year anniversary. Yay. Woo. So we thought we would switch it up and we are going to ask each other some questions to find out [00:01:00] what we have both learned during this incredible year.

[00:01:04] Cheryl: So, Angela, first question is to you, what motivated you to start this podcast and has it turned out the way you expected? 

[00:01:16] Angela: Okay. The motivation, I think this comes from a long period of. You and I just loving learning and starting to get into Web three and the metaverse and talking about it more and more, but also our experience of doing this with social media and it being difficult sometimes because we would encourage people to learn social media, use social media, and not necessarily getting the best.

[00:01:51] Angela: Doing the podcast for us was a way to put something out there but not get frustrated if people weren’t [00:02:00] interested in it. I think that’s why we chose the podcast route. Rather than we could teach this or consult with this, this was the best way for us not to get frustrated. And we talked about it so much that we may as well have done the podcast because.

[00:02:15] Angela: At the time, it was all we were talking about and how it turned out the way I expected. No, of course not. I don’t think you even really know what to expect, and I think I have learned so much more than I would’ve imagined. And when we started, there were things we didn’t even know about. But also because this world moves so quickly, There are things that have come out that we weren’t expecting to just explode.

[00:02:43] Angela: So no, it hasn’t turned out the way expected, but it’s been a great journey. Definitely. What about you? So what about you? Why did, why were you motivated and that’s who turned out the way you expected? 

[00:02:55] Cheryl: So for me, I, so even before we [00:03:00] did started the podcast, you and I were chatting backwards and forwards for at least nine months.

[00:03:06] Cheryl: Talking about all things Web three Metaverse, you and I went out and got R V R headsets, didn’t we? Yes. And I then went to a conference about Web three, came back really excited. I was like, right, we need to get on the case, Angela, because it’s just not out there yet. Information for Web three. And the Metaverse was, it was probably about two or three podcasts at the time.

[00:03:33] Cheryl: Everyone was still very skeptical. And they still are. Yeah, they really are. I mean, this year, well it was actually last year, the end of last year, we’ve seen chat GTP take off, and therefore hundreds of more AI tours have come in to fruition. And so for me, uh, what motivated me to start. Pure, pure [00:04:00] educational, selfish reasons so that I could educate myself, take some time to, to learn what’s going on.

[00:04:09] Cheryl: And then of course, we can tell you. And then has it turned out the way I expected? Um, I don’t know if I had any expectations for the podcast because it really was for selfish purposes so that I could, I dunno. It sounds terrible, doesn’t it? But, no, no, I. I really wanted to educate myself and therefore I knew what a great, what a what great way to do that by educating others at the same time, you know, with what we learn along the way.

[00:04:40] Cheryl: So I’m sure there’s a few episodes right from the beginning that Andrew and I would go back and change because we just understand it’s so much better. True. 

[00:04:52] Angela: That is a good answer. Okay, next one for you. How is your understanding of the metaverses changed since you [00:05:00] started this Burst podcast? 

[00:05:02] Cheryl: Ah, okay. So again, like, like I said, we probably would go back and change a few episodes.

[00:05:08] Cheryl: I the under, I don’t know if it’s changed all that much in my head. I thought that we would be a little bit further along. Virtual reality route because the metaverse really is, doesn’t necessarily need to be in vr. But I think from at the beginning I thought Metaverses were all in virtual reality and therefore, um, we were gonna step into, you know, work in this virtual reality world.

[00:05:38] Cheryl: But actually what I’ve since learned, Metaverse is in Roblox, which is obviously computer games and decentral land and the sandbox, which again, you can all access from your computer using your, um, your wallet. And, um, a again, all [00:06:00] decentralized, um, um, program. So for me, the whole decentralized, um, blockchain.

[00:06:11] Cheryl: It just all makes sense to me now. At the beginning I just didn’t know how. I thought it was really all to do with vr, whereas now I actually realize it’s to do with the coding, the blockchain, and um, yeah, it’s not, it’s not all VR headsets. What about you? Do you feel the same? Is it just 

[00:06:30] Angela: me? I think my understanding very similar to yours.

[00:06:39] Angela: How everything is connected. So when we first started, I didn’t, I thought the metaverse is something different and Web three is something different. And then as you start to learn, you realize how connected everything [00:07:00] is and how it sits under one banner. So you have, you can’t. The metaverse without blockchain and tokens, and you then can’t, then that does that sit under the guise of web three, and then AI comes into play and VR comes into play.

[00:07:19] Angela: So it’s how it all connects together. That was the thing that we needed to sort of peel the layers of the onion to understand. So for me, I think it’s just connecting the dots. Yeah. As you start to learn, you connect the dots. You’re like, oh, I get this now. I get 

[00:07:39] Cheryl: this now. Yes. Because I never, I never actually realized why is blockchain so important Until I started researching the different projects.

[00:07:47] Cheryl: Yes. And the different pieces of software and all that. Right. 

[00:07:51] Angela: And then smart contracts have smart contracts connect everything. And how NFTs, when you initially. [00:08:00] Talking about this, you think of NFTs as pieces of art, and then actually you realize, no, there’s so much more in how they connect to the metaverse and land.

[00:08:10] Angela: And so I think 

[00:08:11] Cheryl: that’s, yeah, there’s so many aspects involved until you start actually deep diving into each aspect, then it all comes together. 

[00:08:18] Angela: Yeah. It maps itself just like a jigsaw puzzle. Exactly. Gotta put 

[00:08:23] Cheryl: together. I agree. I agree. Okay. So what has been your favorite episode so far and why? 

[00:08:31] Angela: I don’t have one.

[00:08:33] Angela: I think I speak about this one a lot. So when we see wish of vodka and wish of vodka was because it was the first company that we came across that did something so creative and innovative that it just blew me away. I thought, this is genius. I love this. The next one I think was my favorite was Doos, because I didn’t wanna do the episode on Doos, so I [00:09:00] was like, and then as I deep dived into a march, this is fascinating.

[00:09:06] Angela: I absolutely love this. And I think it was that element of just being so excited to learn something. And then we actually did an episode just recently, which was, I think it was to do to with marketing. Web three or the Metaverse or creating a brand in a Web Three World. 

[00:09:27] Cheryl: Oh yeah. You like that one? That’s, yeah.

[00:09:28] Cheryl: Yeah, you do. And I 

[00:09:29] Angela: remember sending Cheryl a voice message to say, you’ve gotta listen back to this episode, cuz actually I’m really giving some good advice here. I was really shocked that how much we could then apply it to, not as shocked maybe, but I thought, yeah, this is very relevant. And we can apply it to women of the Metaverse, but to also our other brands too.

[00:09:54] Angela: So that one I actually really liked because it was so relevant to what we were [00:10:00] doing and how people could really transition. So those for me were, were mine. What about you? What’s your favorite episode 

[00:10:06] Cheryl: and why? Uh, so selfishly, again, God, this is a very selfish podcast. It 

[00:10:10] Angela: doesn’t matter. 

[00:10:12] Cheryl: So I like number 38.

[00:10:13] Cheryl: And how will Web three change web design? For obvious reasons, if you don’t know already, I am a web designer and that research was pretty important and imperative for me to learn that alone. How you guys, how your businesses are gonna be run, what website software we’re gonna be using, et cetera, et cetera.

[00:10:33] Cheryl: And again, things move on so much. Even if we were to write that episode again, it would probably have so much more involved and we, we, we do our episodes four weeks in advance to the point where we’re like, oh my goodness, so much has changed. Do we go back and write? We really do ask ourselves quite a lot.

[00:10:54] Cheryl: Shall we go back and add some more content? Yes. Purely because it just grows [00:11:00] every day. I know so much and I know when it’s a good, um, episode because Andrew and I will be backwards and forwards on TikTok, Instagram, WhatsApp, using all the inbox messages, sending each other, all the crazy, all the crazy insights into, oh my God, do you know that this, we can do this.

[00:11:22] Cheryl: We could do that. Um, so. Yeah. I just, I love learning and as, as you know, we, uh, we are having a ball learning with you guys, all 

[00:11:34] Angela: of this. Yes. Yeah. Okay. What was the most surprising thing you love while recording the podcast? Oh, how to record a podcast. Just make me wanna 

[00:11:45] Cheryl: Absolutely. I had no idea. So Angela had a podcast before, so I.

[00:11:53] Cheryl: Highly dependent on Angela’s knowledge, but I’ve 

[00:11:58] Angela: still learned a huge 

[00:11:59] Cheryl: about, [00:12:00] yeah, definitely. Another thing that we have learned is we got the VR headsets, so we taught ourselves how to record in the metaverse. Do you remember all 

[00:12:14] Angela: that that was? Yes. That took a long time to figure that now as well, that 

[00:12:19] Cheryl: that took a lot of research and being on the right Facebook group asking questions in Horizon, workrooms Facebook community, um, working out, uh, discord.

[00:12:33] Cheryl: And again, we have we done an episode on disclosure? No. We, we, we really should put it, we put it off. We put it off. We always put it off. It’s one of those that we put off. Um, but again, That is a decentralized platform that people are bringing their community over to because it’s, wow. It’s just kind of like a forum.

[00:12:54] Cheryl: There’s lots of, um, software and AI that are using Discord [00:13:00] to, um, again, bring their communities together and to operate their software from really. I was also surprised when I went to my sister’s, her, her other halfs a gamer and he was, he was using Discord to communicate it’ll be a game. Yes. So I was just like, what you doing?

[00:13:19] Cheryl: What are you do, what, what do, why have you got Discord? And how he, and he is like, well, yeah, this is how we, we communicate in the gaming world. So I’m sure there’s a list as long as my arm of what surprised me. Um, but, uh, I, I. Just learning new technologies and getting excited about what we can do even to the, our last, even going back to our last episode, which is about Kathy Hackle new jewelry line with the N F C uh, technology.

[00:13:52] Cheryl: And if you haven’t listened to it, do go back, uh, because that’s a great bit of tech too. Yeah. So what about you? Come on, [00:14:00] what surprised you? 

[00:14:02] Angela: I think this one is probably the biggest learning curve in such a long time. When you do, you become an adult, I think you almost stop learning or you don’t learn to such an extent.

[00:14:16] Angela: You do when you’re at school, you kind of master what you are doing and almost stop learning, and this is in a year. The learning curve that you and I have gone through has been mammoth, and it’s been those moments where. We’ve put some episodes off because we didn’t get it. Tokens were one, was one we put off for a really long time because we just, well, we don’t know the difference 

[00:14:39] Cheryl: between an NF ft.

[00:14:41] Cheryl: A token. A token, yes. Or um, a badge. Like basically they’re all the same thing guys. Yes. But, um, 

[00:14:47] Angela: those are the things that all of a sudden when you break through, so. And you’re like, oh, I get it. And because this podcast, because of this podcast, we are forced to do that. So we are forced to [00:15:00] just, I’ve got to understand this.

[00:15:02] Angela: I’ve got to write this episode, so I need to understand it. And when you had those breakthroughs, you’re like, oh my God, I get it. There was one recently with, we did smart Contracts and I understood it. Understood it, and then I hit, I just read something. I was like, oh, I don’t get this at all. I just don’t get it.

[00:15:22] Angela: And then bam, it clicked again. So I think those are the things that surprise you when you just, you just break through with something. And because of the way the technology is released, we are just, new things are coming out all the time. AI is another one. So chat, G P T coming out in November. That’s been a massive learning curve again, and what you can do and how you can use it and how you can use it for your business.

[00:15:57] Angela: And there’s always [00:16:00] the ability to think about how you transition from this very, what sounds very technical into something that relates to your business and. That must be surprising how that we could actually do 

[00:16:17] Cheryl: that. Okay. So has your experience hosting this podcast changed your perspective on being a woman in the tech industry?

[00:16:28] Cheryl: I don’t think it’s 

[00:16:29] Angela: changed it. I think it’s not surprising. And again, one of the reasons we started this podcast was because there are so many women who. Not who maybe not understand how many opportunities that are in this industry. And we wanted to help people to work out how they could do that for their brand, their business, their career.

[00:16:56] Angela: I think maybe the surprising [00:17:00] thing, or as I changed my knowledge, my perspective, I just think this is such a new area. And it, it still seems a bit of a battle to get women to understand, but I’m not surprised that about the lack of women in the tech industry. I’m frustrated that there isn’t more. So I, I think that would be what I would say about it.

[00:17:25] Angela: What about you, Cheryl? 

[00:17:27] Cheryl: Yeah, I mean, what Andrew and I do try and to seek out is. Women in the tech or women? Women owners. Women founders. And we’ve probably nearly, I mean, there’s probably lows that we don’t know about. I’m hoping so. But we’ve gone through the most popular female founders and we are gonna always, uh, support them moving forwards with their projects.

[00:17:57] Cheryl: So that basically say that you are [00:18:00] inspired as well. So I wouldn’t say it’s changed my perspective. I think it’s just really important for us to be doing what we are doing and women to keep buying the flag for the tech world. And I don’t know how much it has changed in the last year or two in terms of women getting into tech, um, but every time we do any research on this, it’s thumbs up time and time again.

[00:18:31] Cheryl: There’s not enough women in the industry. Yeah, 

[00:18:34] Angela: it’s a very small industry for women, but also those circling, circulating, that’s not the right word, but those that are just sitting around the edges or those that have brands that maybe need to start to transition or think about transition, maybe need to not think about it being the tech industry.

[00:18:54] Angela: It’s the tech industry that’s developing it, but those people who have brands that may start to [00:19:00] use. It’s not, it’s not about technology, it’s about how you can grow your brand. So AI in the background would be incredibly technical, incredibly wouldn’t have a clue, wouldn’t understand it at all. But to actually use it, it’s not technical.

[00:19:16] Cheryl: Exactly. It’s so just being a bit more in innovative in your business. Yes. Uh, the fact that we use the word tech just scares everyone. 

[00:19:24] Angela: Yes. And I think it always has. You don’t need to be technical to use. Any of it really at all. 

[00:19:32] Cheryl: I agree. I agree. So, so how has the pandemic impacted your understanding of the metaverse?

[00:19:43] Cheryl: The reason why I ask that is because I feel that it catapulted web three. So what do you think 

[00:19:53] Angela: Maybe, I think it maybe gave people. To look [00:20:00] at different, I think technologies, again, if you’re working in that world, I know around about that time there was a lot of people leaving web two to go into web three.

[00:20:11] Angela: Maybe that was something to do with it. Maybe a lot more people at that time got bi headsets as well as something to do. It gave people, I think it may have just given people that space to look at different things. Certainly for us, I think that was that around about the time we started to look into it.

[00:20:27] Cheryl: Definitely. And for me as well, I feel that it was so important. I felt it was really important to meet my clients in the flesh and have that face-to-face familiarization and personable approach. And, You know, I used to do websites in a day where we’d sit all day together in a London office and have some lunch, and it was all very much about being face-to-face.

[00:20:57] Cheryl: And what I think the pandemic did [00:21:00] for me is made my processes and systems streamline so streamlined because I realized that people were. Gonna pay me money even if, even though they haven’t met me. And therefore, when we go into VR and the Metaverse, it’s gonna continue that. So the trust for me, the pandemic and the trust, it, it’s kind of paved the way 

[00:21:26] Angela: for.

[00:21:27] Angela: That’s a really good point, because even when you did your initial exploration meeting, you used to do that face-to-face as well, didn’t you? 

[00:21:38] Cheryl: So in. And then I’d send a proposal and sometimes they’d say no, and I’ve wasted like two hours in 

[00:21:44] Angela: town. So I think people getting used to doing something in distance is, has been helped by the pandemic.

[00:21:54] Angela: I think that’s a really good point. You may, Cheryl. Therefore it’s also opened up [00:22:00] communication globally to be able to speak to people across the. Virtually. I think so. Yeah, definitely. I think the other thing that maybe have helped is TikTok. I think TikTok has just brought such a different landscape to what people wanna see here and how they learn.

[00:22:21] Angela: And I think TikTok transitions you into those more decentralized platforms like Discord, which then will take you onto into the Metaverse and using Web three technologies. So I think that may have changed. 

[00:22:36] Cheryl: Yeah, definitely. My might was sitting with my friend last week and she said, oh, let’s pick a restaurant to go to in London.

[00:22:42] Cheryl: She went, oh, check Instagram. And I was like, no, no, no, no. We checking TikTok. She ignored me because she’s a Taurus. That was a little dig digger Angela there and off she went into Instagram. So I got out TikTok and typed in best places to [00:23:00] eat in London or you know, She was like, oh,

[00:23:07] Cheryl: and off the back of TikTok, we’ve chosen a restaurant for Saturday night and um, there was nothing on Instagram. There’s again, it, I’m sure it will improve. Okay. We’re not 

[00:23:16] Angela: talking about Central, but, but I think it’s that transition. I was writing part of a new episode just before we started recording this, and one of the things I was talking about was TikTok being that transition Applic.

[00:23:30] Angela: That will take people maybe into Discord as well for 

[00:23:33] Cheryl: me. Yeah, you, there’s lots of learnings on there, isn’t it? And actually, have you heard about the new social media platform Limited? Yes. Which is owned 

[00:23:40] Angela: by the same people, isn’t 

[00:23:42] Cheryl: it? And I, I’m not sure I’m I, and again, how did I learn about it? TikTok and even the Yeah, yeah.

[00:23:50] Cheryl: Even though it’s not No, I was gonna say, even though it’s not a decentralized platform and it’s very much Web two, Must must stress that. But I just learned [00:24:00] so much from that. Well, 

[00:24:00] Angela: the NFC stickers I knew about before I started writing the Luxeburg episode, which is episode 49. And when I was writing the episode and they mentioned it, I thought, oh, I saw that one about the dog.

[00:24:14] Angela: I need to go back and find that so that I can put that in the episode. So TikTok for learning, so there is this sort of transition, I think we’re ha with how we are moving towards. Okay. So are there any new trends or technologies in the Metaverse that you are particularly excited 

[00:24:34] Cheryl: about? Gerald? Oh, I can’t answer it because there’s not one.

[00:24:40] Cheryl: Let’s be honest. I am really excited to be working in the Metaverse now, and I do have a few meetings in the Metaverse. Um, maybe three times a month, but I can’t wait until actually we use it a little bit more frequently and it’s not [00:25:00] just Andrew and I and someone else will say, oh, can we have a meeting?

[00:25:02] Cheryl: And I’d be like, yes, let’s do it. Because for me it just brings back all my Mario gaming from when I was 10. Um, so I’m actually really excited for Apple’s new vr. Um, to come out and apparently it’s gonna be this year. I mean, no, we’re, we’re in April now, but by the time this episode, um, comes out, I’m not, I’m not sure when this may has been released.

[00:25:30] Cheryl: Um, is it May, right. Again, we might have, have heard by then when that’s going to be released, but we’re looking at about three grand for, uh, for the Apple, um, vr. So we’ll see. But for me it’s the metaverse because. Is very exciting as well. But, um, I, I really want, I really want technology to move it on so that we can enjoy a, a bit of virtual reality.

[00:25:58] Cheryl: I What about you? [00:26:00] I’m 

[00:26:00] Angela: excited for how this all maps together. So when I learn something new and we sort of look at how it relates to other things, I get so excited about the ideas. I, when people say, oh, AI’s gonna kill this off, and AI’s going, I think. There’s so many ideas here that you can, you can use it for either now in your physical branding or when you move into the metaverse and you might be using avatars or the products you can create, the products that you can sell.

[00:26:31] Angela: So the whole thing excites me, how it’s gonna make your life more efficient, how the opportunities from it are so, So incredible. I just, I’m so excited about how it all kind of maps together and what you can do with it. That I just think it’s amazing. 

[00:26:52] Cheryl: Amazing. So what are the plans for the future of the podcast?

[00:26:57] Cheryl: We can both answer that. I’ll [00:27:00] start because it’s, uh, we ha we have got plans for season three, so that’s, um, that’s definitely coming and we will have a little. Over the summer and then we’ll be released. Um, again, it’s just about making sure that we are covering new tech that comes out, uh, new AI tools that come out.

[00:27:25] Cheryl: The, the, the vr, you know, we could go on, but we definitely got plans for season 

[00:27:30] Angela: three. Yes. And we talk a lot about actually. Executing some of the things that we learn as well. So do we do something with tokens? Do we do something with ai? Do we, so we talk about it a not so, 

[00:27:46] Cheryl: yeah, we do. We do and we do. We talk about it and we do walk the wall.

[00:27:51] Cheryl: You know, we have got our web pre domains and we have got NFTs and we have got wallets. And we want you guys to also be prepared so you’re not [00:28:00] left behind. So if there is a particular episode, That you’re interested in and you think, well, I’d like to learn how to do it. Um, do pop in, you know, those same episode titles into YouTube, because when we did our wallets, God, 18 months ago, there was only a few videos and it was really difficult and they’ve actually made it so much easier to create a wallet now.

[00:28:27] Cheryl: Yes. Oh, and, and, Do go and explore and, and, and definitely I 

[00:28:35] Angela: think that, I think any future for the podcast will always center around how can we help women to have a voice in this space? What can we do that would help women understand this is so important to not get left behind. And you know Exactly. I think all of us.[00:29:00] 

[00:29:00] Angela: Was just such a, I don’t know, it just came in and went bam so quickly that I think there’s a lot of people are fearing it, but for me, oh my head’s dying crazy with different ideas that you know how you can utilize it. So I think we will, it will always center around how can we get women to understand the importance of this and therefore how can we help you start to utilize it in your brand and grow.

[00:29:27] Angela: I think that’s the future of the podcast. Okay. Lastly, last question. What’s your, or some of your biggest takeaways that you’ve tackled from the past year of podcasting and exploring the metaverse? Well, that’s really hard. You wrote the question.

[00:29:47] Angela: That’s the 

[00:29:48] Cheryl: secrets away. Um, the biggest takeaway for me is probably, All the prompts [00:30:00] from, well, learning prompts, engineering for chat, GTP, because everyone of their dog’s talking about chat gtp. And yes, we do have an episode about it. Um, but it’s the prompt engineering that’s actually going to make your AI work harder for you and the results and streamlining the processes.

[00:30:27] Cheryl: So for me, um, the biggest takeaway is, uh, prompt engineering, which we haven’t even done this 

[00:30:34] Angela: episode. We’ve talked about it a lot. Coming. It’s 


[00:30:37] Cheryl: lot. Yeah. Yes, it is coming. So, um, prompt engineering for me. Angela, what about you? 

[00:30:45] Angela: I think one, how many opportunities there are that people can just take hold of and go with.

[00:30:53] Angela: And I think the biggest takeaway. I’m kind of very proud of Cheryl and I that when we’ve [00:31:00] stuck at it that we have really dug deep in the learning. Particularly when it’s been hard and the both of us have been going backwards, school going, I don’t get this, I don’t get this. And then we, we’ve just kind of dug a bit harder and then all of a sudden it’s like, oh, it’s clicked now.

[00:31:16] Angela: Or one of us can explain to the other and you go, oh, I get it. Yeah, okay, I get it now. So I think that’s probably the biggest takeaway in. On top of everything else that Sharon and I have got going on in our lives that we’ve stuck at it. And when it’s got really difficult because we are trying to do a subject that we are like, I don’t really get this.

[00:31:36] Angela: We’ve sort of stuck to it and continued to learn a breakthrough and that’s how we do it. It’s just been a bit of a breakthrough year because every week we are like, oh, there’s something else. We learned something else, and we continue to connect those dots. So I feel done have. Vast knowledge compared to what I knew last year when we first started this [00:32:00] podcast.

[00:32:02] Angela: Yeah. So I think 

[00:32:03] Cheryl: definitely, and I think I said uh, the very first few episodes to an, to be able to talk at a dinner party and be involved when people start talking about web three. Is really important. There’s so many times where I am at a conference or dinners, and again, it could be networking, could be social, and they, I bring up web three or something, a tech piece of technology and they’re like, ah, what is that?

[00:32:40] Cheryl: And it’s still, the questions are still coming. I don’t, what’s your podcast? What, what is web three? Can you just tell, can you, so what else? Listen to your podcast. Can you just tell me quickly what Web three is? Well, you can’t really, because of, yeah, there’s a lot to it. Everything, like Angela says, you need to join the dots.

[00:32:59] Cheryl: [00:33:00] So, um, it, it’s been a fantastic year of learning and, uh, I’m looking forward to, you know, what’s left of season two and season three, season three. 

[00:33:12] Angela: Before we close out this episode, we wanted to thank every one of you for listening, for supporting the podcast, and for the current words we’ve received about it.

[00:33:20] Angela: We are excited about another year of bringing you this podcast, so join us next week as we continue our journey into the Metaverse. Bye for now. Goodbye.

[00:33:35] Angela: Thank you for listening to this episode of Women of the Metaverse. 

[00:33:40] Cheryl: You can find all information, links and people we talked about in the show notes on our website. If you 

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[00:33:50] Cheryl: Join us again in the next episode as we continue this exciting metaverse journey.[00:34:00]